Five9's AI Revenue Grew 78% While Its Gross Margin Fell — the Attach Is Dilutive
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The pandemic-era communications software names have been left for dead on the argument that AI agents kill the per-seat license. Two of them just reported quarters that answer the question — and the answer is not the bullish one. Five9's artificial-intelligence revenue grew 78% to roughly $39m last quarter, but gross profit grew 7.3% against revenue growth of 10.3% and its gross margin fell to 53.4%: the AI work arrives cheaper than the seat it displaces. RingCentral supplies the same lesson more cleanly — paid AI doubled to 13% of annual recurring revenue while total recurring revenue grew 7% and net retention sat near 99%, so AI is filling in for churned seats, not adding to them. RingCentral, the cheapest at 2.97x forward gross profit with an 11.9% free-cash-flow yield, is the exception. Zoom and Box have not reported since May.
| Ticker | Company | Segment | Trend · 13mo | 30D | 1Y |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| The subject · what this brief is about | |||||
FIVN | Five9 | Communications & Collaboration | 🌱 Emerging Bull | +26.3% | +22.9% |
RNG | RingCentral | Communications & Collaboration | 🟢 Cont. Bull | +60.0% | +115.9% |
ZM | Zoom Communications | Communications & Collaboration | 🟢 Cont. Bull | +15.2% | +42.2% |
BOX | Box | Communications & Collaboration | 🌱 Emerging Bull | +5.2% | +2.6% |
| Compared against · context, not the story | |||||
NICE | NICE | Customer Experience & CRM | 🔴 Cont. Bear | −2.3% | −27.7% |
TEAM | Atlassian | Developer Tools & DevOps | 🔴 Cont. Bear | +69.0% | −3.6% |
PD | PagerDuty | Developer Tools & DevOps | 🌱 Emerging Bull | +14.7% | −25.8% |
CRM | Salesforce | Customer Experience & CRM | 🔴 Cont. Bear | +9.9% | −21.3% |
NOW | ServiceNow | Specialized Enterprise Solutions | 🔴 Cont. Bear | +14.4% | −32.9% |
WDAY | Workday | Enterprise Resource Planning | 🔴 Cont. Bear | +29.2% | −18.0% |
MNDY | monday.com | Other | 🔴 Cont. Bear | +8.1% | −53.6% |
HUBS | HubSpot | Customer Experience & CRM | 🔴 Cont. Bear | −6.9% | −52.0% |
INTU | Intuit | Enterprise Resource Planning | 🔴 Cont. Bear | +13.4% | −53.2% |
12-month price & trend
| Ticker | Mkt cap | P/E | P/E fwd | P/S | P/S fwd | P/GP | P/GP fwd | EV/EBITDA | FCF yld |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
FIVN | $2.5B | 42.7x | 10.0x | 2.1x | 2.0x | 3.8x | 3.6x | 15.1x | 8.0% |
RNG | $5.6B | 50.5x | 13.0x | 2.2x | 2.1x | 3.0x | 3.0x | 20.3x | 11.9% |
ZM | $30.7B | 15.1x | 17.3x | 6.2x | 6.0x | 8.0x | 7.8x | 10.7x | 6.4% |
| Ticker | Mkt cap | P/E | P/E fwd | P/S | P/S fwd | P/GP | P/GP fwd | EV/EBITDA | FCF yld |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
BOX | $4.5B | 48.2x | 20.6x | 3.7x | 3.5x | 4.7x | 4.4x | 28.7x | 7.8% |
NICE | $5.2B | 9.7x | 8.1x | 1.7x | 1.7x | 2.5x | 2.5x | 5.7x | 11.3% |
TEAM | $42.8B | n/m | 26.8x | 6.5x | 5.8x | 7.7x | 6.9x | 283.5x | 3.1% |
| Ticker | Mkt cap | P/E | P/E fwd | P/S | P/S fwd | P/GP | P/GP fwd | EV/EBITDA | FCF yld |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
PD | $1.1B | 5.7x | 9.0x | 2.2x | 2.2x | 2.6x | 2.6x | 23.0x | 11.5% |
CRM | $160.7B | 22.6x | 13.9x | 3.8x | 3.5x | 4.8x | 4.5x | 13.8x | 9.1% |
NOW | $121.7B | 73.1x | 28.9x | 8.3x | 7.5x | 11.0x | 10.0x | 36.6x | 3.8% |
| Ticker | Mkt cap | P/E | P/E fwd | P/S | P/S fwd | P/GP | P/GP fwd | EV/EBITDA | FCF yld |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
WDAY | $47.1B | 55.8x | 16.7x | 4.8x | 4.4x | 6.3x | 5.8x | 30.0x | 6.3% |
MNDY | $4.7B | 39.8x | 20.3x | 3.6x | 3.2x | 4.1x | 3.6x | 51.1x | 6.4% |
HUBS | $11.5B | 79.1x | 17.0x | 3.3x | 3.1x | 4.0x | 3.7x | 37.9x | 6.7% |
| Ticker | Mkt cap | P/E | P/E fwd | P/S | P/S fwd | P/GP | P/GP fwd | EV/EBITDA | FCF yld |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
INTU | $89.0B | 19.7x | 11.9x | 4.3x | 3.7x | 5.2x | 4.6x | 13.0x | 8.7% |
Consensus projections
| Ticker | FY2026E | FY2027E | FY2028E | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
FIVN | Revenue | +10.0% | +10.0% | +9.4% |
| EPS | +10.5% | +16.0% | +13.6% | |
RNG | Revenue | +5.1% | +4.6% | +4.5% |
| EPS | +16.2% | +11.0% | +10.5% | |
ZM | Revenue | +4.2% | +4.8% | +4.0% |
| EPS | +9.7% | +1.2% | +4.0% | |
BOX | Revenue | +7.8% | +9.0% | +8.1% |
| EPS | −24.4% | +22.4% | +14.3% | |
NICE | Revenue | +8.2% | +9.6% | +12.5% |
| EPS | −9.6% | +14.2% | +21.0% | |
TEAM | Revenue | +24.7% | +13.4% | +15.9% |
| EPS | +55.5% | +10.5% | +18.0% | |
PD | Revenue | +5.4% | +0.7% | +2.8% |
| EPS | +42.1% | +16.9% | +7.1% | |
CRM | Revenue | +9.3% | +11.1% | +9.4% |
| EPS | +17.4% | +20.2% | +10.4% | |
NOW | Revenue | +22.4% | +18.7% | +18.6% |
| EPS | +17.1% | +23.2% | +21.4% | |
WDAY | Revenue | +13.4% | +11.8% | +11.0% |
| EPS | +26.5% | +18.5% | +17.3% | |
MNDY | Revenue | +19.8% | +16.1% | +16.1% |
| EPS | +7.0% | +21.4% | +10.9% | |
HUBS | Revenue | +18.5% | +14.9% | +14.0% |
| EPS | +37.2% | +22.5% | +18.5% | |
INTU | Revenue | +13.9% | +11.3% | +10.8% |
| EPS | +18.5% | +15.0% | +12.6% |
Forward fiscal years only. Blank means no analyst coverage for that year.
Five9, which sells cloud contact-center software that routes customer calls, chats and emails for banks, outsourcers and hospital systems, told investors on 6 August that revenue from its artificial-intelligence products had grown 78% year over year, to roughly $39m — an annual run-rate above $150m — and raised its full-year AI growth target from over 40% to at least 60%. Subscription revenue rose 14%, a third straight quarter of acceleration. The shares fell on the print and then gained 19.8% the following session.
The part that did not make the headline is what the AI revenue costs to deliver. Five9's gross margin fell to 53.4% from 54.9% a year earlier, and from 55.9% in the prior quarter. Gross profit grew 7.3% while revenue grew 10.3% — the definition of a mix shift toward lower-margin work. Operating income fell to $2.0m from $18.5m three months earlier, taking the operating margin to 0.6%. A per-agent license is close to pure margin once written; AI voice and agent minutes carry an inference bill every time they run. On the evidence of one quarter, Five9's own AI product is replacing seat revenue with something less profitable rather than layering on top of it.
It is doing so from third place. In cloud contact-center software, NICE holds 22.3% of revenue and Genesys 20.0%, with Five9 third at 12.7% of an $8.4bn market. Both larger rivals were recapitalized for this transition last year: NICE bought conversational-AI vendor Cognigy for $955m, and Salesforce and ServiceNow jointly put $1.5bn into Genesys. Five9's largest disclosed win of the quarter, a Fortune 100 financial-services account worth about $100m of total contract value, is expected to ramp to $25m of annual recurring revenue — roughly 2% of guided revenue.
RingCentral shows what AI attach is actually doing
RingCentral, which sells cloud phone, meetings and contact-center service to mid-market and enterprise employers, reported the same substitution in cleaner form. Paid AI products doubled to 13% of annual recurring revenue of about $2.8bn — while total recurring revenue grew 7% and net monthly subscription dollar retention sat just above 99%. AI is not adding a layer; it is backfilling seats that leave.
The rest of the quarter was strong regardless. Revenue reached $657m, up 5.9%, with gross margin at 71.9% and operating margin at 7.7% against 6.0% a year earlier — the opposite of Five9's direction. Free cash flow was $180m, net leverage came down to 1.5x, and the company repurchased 2.2m shares for $94m while lifting the dividend 67% and renewing its distribution partnership with NICE. Diluted share count is down 6.1% year over year, which supplies a good share of reported earnings growth. On 11.9% trailing free-cash-flow yield and 2.97x forward gross profit, it is the one name here whose price still lags its cash generation.
Two of the four have disclosed nothing
Zoom Communications, the video and phone platform, and Box, which stores and governs enterprise files for about 100,000 paying organizations, have not reported since May. Zoom's advance is rotation plus a balance-sheet mark: its shares jumped after Anthropic disclosed a confidential draft IPO filing, with its 2023 stake valued at up to $4bn against a $30.7bn market capitalization. The operating business grew 5.5% last quarter, and fiscal 2026 net income of $1.90bn exceeded operating income of $1.12bn — $776m of below-the-line gains flattering a 15.1x trailing multiple. Zoom's forward price-to-earnings of 17.3x sits above trailing, the tell that consensus does not expect the gains to repeat. Box, meanwhile, is the fastest grower of the four at 10.7% and accelerating for four straight quarters, with operating margin up from 2.3% to 9.0%; it reports on 25 August.
Across the four, the month is eight sessions. Strip each name's two best days from the 30 days to 18 August and an equal-weight gain of 26.5% becomes 0.7%, with Five9 at -10.4%. Every gap dates to an event: RingCentral's results, Five9's results, and a market-wide rotation out of AI hardware into un-repriced seat software that also lifted Salesforce, ServiceNow and Workday. Because gross margins here span 53% at Five9 to 79% at Box, price-to-gross-profit is the only comparable lens. On it, Five9 stands at 3.60x forward and Box at 4.41x — both roughly 30% to 46% above where the same measure implies they stood in early May. The de-rating has been recovered; the operating question has not been answered.
The setup
Where it stands — AI attach is substituting for lost seats at both companies that reported, and at Five9 it is doing so at a lower gross margin. Would confirm — Five9's gross margin falls again in the third quarter while AI revenue keeps growing above 60%. Would invalidate — Five9 gross margin returns toward 55% with subscription growth held above 12%, or RingCentral net retention crosses 102%. Watch next — Box reports fiscal second-quarter results after the close on 25 August 2026; Zoom follows later in the month. Valuation — Five9 3.60x forward gross profit versus 3.77x trailing; RingCentral 2.97x forward, the cohort's cheapest; Zoom 7.79x.














